My Least Favorite Thing About China
No, it’s not the pollution, or the fact that there are so many people here. My least favorite thing about China is this lingering cultural perception that everything about China is, at some level, ultimately incomprehensible to everyone who isn’t Chinese.
This is manifested at every level, from the extremely superficial to the deeply personal. For example, China-watchers may recall the hubbub over Ang Lee’s recent film Lust, Caution, which some Chinese people claim is impossible for non-Chinese to understand. I haven’t seen the film and I’m sure it does have a lot of cultural references that make it difficult for foreigners to understand, but impossible? Really? (It should be noted that one of the two writers of Lust, Caution was a foreigner).
This phenomenon exists even in perceptions about the language. Chinese people are, by and large, deeply impressed that I can speak decent Chinese and generally shocked when I tell them that I don’t think Chinese is a difficult language to learn (at least, no more difficult than other languages). Yes, Chinese is written with characters, yes, it has tones, yes, it’s a very old language, but why does that mean it’s impossible to learn?
In those more public arenas, I’m not particularly bothered by it, to be honest. It’s fair that Chinese people expect foreigners to be ignorant about their culture; after all, the vast majority of foreigners are. What’s frustrating is when a difference of opinions with a friend who knows you aren’t ignorant still leads to what seems to be everyone’s fallback defense: “You’re a foreigner, so you don’t understand.”
Now, I’m not claiming that I know everything about China, or Chinese culture, because I don’t. But I do know a fair amount; more than the average Chinese people about some things. In my college classes, I’ve straightened out students who were confused about which ancient philosopher wrote what, and what Lu Xun’s original name was (Lu Xun is a pen name). Still, I’m pretty sure it will never be enough. If a difference of opinion runs deep enough, the eventual response I get is always “you just don’t understand.”
This phenomenon is, I think, one part of a larger issue for me: the clear delineation between “foreigner” and “Chinese person” based completely on ethnicity. Although I haven’t lived here half a year yet, among my coworkers there are people who have lived here for years, married Chinese women, had children. In America, those people would be considered American; in China, they will always be Foreign. And, by extension, it seems they will never really understand China.
Personally, I don’t think I understand China as well as Chinese people, not yet. But I believe there are foreigners who do, and there are plenty of aspects of Chinese culture I understand well enough that I should be able to discuss them without getting the old “you don’t understand” in return.
In the interest of clarity, the conversation I’m thinking of was regarding marriage/dating and a friend of mine who is being pressured by her parents to find someone. I’m of the opinion that she’s still young and can afford to wait until she runs into someone she likes. She thinks I don’t understand, but I do; I understand the extreme pressure she feels from her parents, I understand that different marriage customs mean people get married younger here, and that if she waits too long she might not be able to find anyone. I understand that she’s seeing her friends pair up and get married or move away and she feels a lot of pressure to change something. But I also understand her well enough to know that she isn’t one of those girls that can live happily as long as they have a tolerable husband and material comforts. That does work for some women, but it’s not going to work for her. She’s not mature enough for a real relationship either–she’s admitted that herself–and I don’t care what country you live in or what social pressures you face, those factors make it a bad idea to get married. That’s my opinion. Readers who understand Chinese culture better than I feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but I feel I completely understand the social situation she’s talking about, I just feel that her own happiness is more important than conforming to social norms, even if it means making her parents angry. I KNOW that Chinese culture has different values regarding obeying your parents, it isn’t that I don’t understand, I just don’t agree.
So it hurts to hear even as close a friend as her brush of my arguments with “you don’t understand.”
That’s why I could never live here forever.
Dad on 02 Dec 2008 at 3:13 pm #
Today in class we watched the interview with the Taiwanese tourists. They were surprised by the notion of inter-marriage between Taiwanese and mainland Chinese, because to Americans that would hardly constitute “inter-marriage.” After all, most of us are the product of Germany, Austria, England, Scotland, and Ireland, to name just a few, and that is tame for a country whose new president-elect is the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. I guess having a population as ethnically pure as the Chinese really underscores the notion of “other” in their minds.
This is nothing you do not know better than I; I just thought I saw a connection between your post and our class conversation…
Mayline on 09 Dec 2008 at 11:05 pm #
Personally I think that a lot of things are based on ethnicity, even just for visual cue sake. The idea of the of the “other” is manufactured, but is a functional reality. Will I ever truly know what it’s like to be white, or male, or physically disabled? probably not, just due to the complexity that makes up identity. So in that sense, maybe there is an impenetrable wall to full understanding. To be fair though, I can see how it must be frustrating and hurtful to be thought of as ignorant or incapable of grasping something when it’s very obvious that you’re not the average.
I think that overall though, it might not necessarily entirely be a ethnicity thing, but just feelings that a person may be inclined to get. To some extent, everybody feels like no one truly understands them, especially in areas of disagreement. It’s always easier to believe that one’s evaluation is correct because one has the entire set of facts, and that someone else’s is wrong because the other person is missing things. Nobody really likes to think that they’re missing things.
So in short, it may be because you’re American. It may be because you’re male. It may also be because what she’s feeling isn’t rational anymore, and is instead emotional. For things like fear, sometimes there really isn’t an explanation.
Roy on 24 Dec 2008 at 9:28 am #
I totally agree with you, I had the same experiences too and that was also why I could not live there at the moment. I think it’s quite a common phenomenon. Have you read the books of Alan Booth? He had the same experiences in Japan and wrote very well about his experiences, he was a fluent Japanese speaker. It’s a type of ethnocentrism that seems particularly strong in East Asia - historical isolationsim perhaps.
Sun Zoo on 28 Dec 2008 at 5:15 am #
I haven’t read any Alan Booth, but I’m not surprised at all to hear that the same phenomenon exists in Japan…
Yue Feng on 31 Dec 2008 at 4:20 am #
I think you’re over estimating the US. I have lived in NYC for 20 something years, since elementary school. Citizen for 15. Served in the Army for 6 years. Yet I still get the “Where are you from?” “No, where are you really from?” “Do you know Karate?” type questions.
Sun Zoo on 01 Jan 2009 at 7:55 am #
Yeah, of course, I’m not suggesting the same sort of thing doesn’t happen in the US, but because the US is much less racially homogenous, I think it happens less often. How often do people stare at you in restaurants? Yell “你好!” at you out the window as they drive by in cars? Tell you you don’t understand American and/or have no right to comment on America because you weren’t born there? When you go to the supermarket, do people try to speak to you in Chinese instead of English? At restaurants, do they gesture at you, or do they speak to you? How often do your American friends exclude you from conversations or disregard your opinion because you’re “not American”?
I’m sure that stuff DOES happen, sometimes, but I’m not sure I’d believe you if you suggested that it happens with the same frequency that it happens to foreigners here, or even close.
Of course some people are going to have absurd/racist/xenophobic ideas about you, especially once they know you’re ethnically Chinese, but that’s not really what I was talking about in this post. Chinese people ask equally ridiculous questions of me, but it’s understandable, and it’s a separate issue from the one I was discussing.
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